9/11: Bommen? Waar?
Op ons forum wordt sinds onze 9/11-maand nog steeds druk gediscussieerd. Zo zijn er een hoop bezoekers die denken dat het WTC door controlled demolition is vernietigd. Geen idee hoe ze daarbij komen. Onze hele serie 9/11-artikelen vind u hier.
(Update 22/7/2006 12:00 - het meest recente werk van Steven Jones. Dit levende document wordt bijgehouden door Scholars for Truth, de meest invloedrijke 9/11-beweging en is uitgegroeid tot één van de meest complete en duidelijke 9/11-werken. Het heeft veel aandacht ook voor context, andere false-flag operaties (precendenten), de financiële toestand van de US en zaken als peak-oil.)
Vaste bezoeker arie_kanarie (whats in a name) zocht wat materiaal bij elkaar
Filmfragmenten van secundaire explosies
■ like a bomb went off
■ the explosion blew and knocked everybody over
■ and when we got to the lobby there was a big explosion.
■ big explosion
■ the glass blew out
■ there was a heavy duty explosion
■ debris came up the stairs
■ something had happened in the lobby
■ as if they had detonators
■ secondary explosions and then the subsequent collapses.
■ big explosion
■ that when i got blown
■ i heard explosions, three thuds
■ three big explosions
■ there was another big, big explosion
■ third blast
■ difference between coming from the basement and coming from the top
■ second explosion...third explosion
■ heard a loud bang
■ there’s a bomb in the building, start clearing out
■ truck with explosives
■ police have found a suspicious device
■ another bomb going off
■ something else at the base of the tower
Documentaires
M.b.t. het opblazen van de torens en WTC7 zijn er een aantal goede docu’s
9/11 Revisited
What’s The Truth (ondertiteld)
911 EyeWitness
Verklaringen
Een kleine greep uit de verklaringen van de zgn. Oral Histories. Op 12 augustus, 2005 publiceerde de New York Times meer dan 12.000 pagina’s met verklaringen in de vorm van transscripties van interviews met 503 brandweerlieden en medische hulpverleners die het hoofd van de brandweer van New York, Thomas Von Essen, had verzameld.
■ Rich Banaciski—Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22]
We were there I don’t know, maybe 10, 15 minutes and then I just remember there was just an explosion. It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions.
■ Greg Brady—E.M.T. (E.M.S.) [Battalion 6]
We were standing underneath and Captain Stone was speaking again. We heard—I heard 3 loud explosions. I look up and the north tower is coming down now, 1 World Trade Center.
■ Ed Cachia—Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 53]
It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit, because we originally had thought there was like an internal detonation explosives because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down. With that everybody was just stunned for a second or two, looking at the tower coming down.
■ Kevin Darnowski—Paramedic (E.M.S.)
I started walking back up towards Vesey Street. I heard three explosions, and then we heard like groaning and grinding, and tower two started to come down.
■ Karin Deshore—Captain (E.M.S.)
Somewhere around the middle of the World Trade Center, there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode. The popping sound, and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then a red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as I could see. These popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger, going both up and down and then all around the building.
■ Stephen Gregory—Assistant Commissioner (F.D.N.Y.)
We both for whatever reason—again, I don’t know how valid this is with everything that was going on at that particular point in time, but for some reason I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought—at that time I didn’t know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down.
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[It was at] the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That’s what I thought I saw.
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He said did you see anything by the building? And I said what do you mean by see anything? He said did you see flashes? I said, yes, well, I thought it was just me. He said no, I saw them too.
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I know about the explosion on the upper floors. This was like at eye level. I didn’t have to go like this. Because I was looking this way. I’m not going to say it was on the first floor or the second floor, but somewhere in that area I saw to me what appeared to be flashes.
■ Joseph Meola—Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 91]
As we are looking up at the building, what I saw was, it looked like the building was blowing out on all four sides. We actually heard the pops. Didn’t realize it was the falling—you know, you heard the pops of the building. You thought it was just blowing out.
■ Keith Murphy—(F.D.N.Y.) []
I was standing kind of on the edge of where our elevator bank met the big elevator bank. That was when the - I determined that’s when the north tower collapses. We are standing there and the first thing that happened, which I still think is strange to me, the lights went out. Completely pitch black. Since we are in that core little area of the building, there is no natural light. No nothing, I didn’t see a thing.
I had heard right before the lights went out, I had heard a distant boom boom boom, sounded like three explosions. I don’t know what it was. At the time, I would have said they sounded like bombs, but it was boom boom boom and then the lights all go out. I hear someone say oh, s___, that was just for the lights out. I would say about 3, 4 seconds, all of a sudden this tremendous roar. It sounded like being in a tunnel with the train coming at you.
■ Daniel Rivera—Paramedic (E.M.S.) [Battalion 31]
Then that’s when—I kept on walking close to the south tower, and that’s when that building collapsed.
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■ It was a frigging noise. At first I thought it was—do you ever see professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear “Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop”? That’s exactly what—because I thought it was that. When I heard that frigging noise, that’s when I saw the building coming down.
■ David Timothy—E.M.T. (E.M.S.)
The next thing I knew, you started hearing more explosions. I guess this is when the second tower started coming down.
■ Thomas Turilli—Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)
The door closed, they went up, and it just seemed a couple of seconds and all of a sudden you just heard it, it almost actually that day sounded like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom, like seven or eight, and then just a huge wind gust just came and my officer just actually took all of us and just threw us down on the ground and kind of just jumped on top of us, laid on top of us.







Boom boom boom, en daar gaan de schapen weer, zeggende dat het pancake was omdat ’honderden structural engineers‘ gezegd zouden hebben dat het pancake was.
Als het allemaal Vambersky’s en ir. Joris “Als je het maar heet genoeg maakt” Melkert zijn, weten we wat we daar van moeten denken. Als je genoeg explosieven in een toren stopt, komt deze ook neer ja.
Wat een verstand.
Eens kijken hoe men bovenstaande weer wegwimpelt. Waarschijnlijk een combinatie van ontploffende senseo’s en veel, heel veel druk van de ‘pancake’ ‘dust en douwen’ variant bovenin